OOC: No blame on China?
"These Communists are fakes. PRC has got nothing to do with this before anyone points a finger." - People's Republic of China (Sir Keshav IV)
OOC: We are allies remember!! I wont blame you!
IC: The Kingdom of Cochin has full confidence in the non complicity of our allies, the People's Republic of China in these terrorist acts. These are local anarchists, committing acts of violence in the name of an ideology.
"I must ask the question, which in my eyes as a fellow Communists is a necessary one, what variant of Communism do you promote?" inquired Francis S. Ferrer. - (Biohazard)
Due to the communications crack down in the insurgency affected districts, there would be no reply to the question from within the Kingdom. All telephone lines, cell phone lines, internet pathways and ordinary mail are being restricted from Cochin-India to outside world.
"Terrorists, or Martyrs? Have you considered what drove these revolutionaries to such hostile action?" asked Francis S. Ferrer. - (Biohazard)
"I would say they are terrorists and martyrs. They chose to be terrorists and we shall definitely help them along to be martyrs. Martyrs have a very redeemable feature that would apply to these terrorists soon - They are all dead. As to what drove them to such a hostile action, that is not an issue any more. They could have chosen to vent out their feelings in a proper manner, Cochin has a true representative system for local governance. But they choose to resort to arms, and that is how they will be answered to." - Lt. Gen. Dara Singh, IG (India), RCPF.
"Have you thought of what may have been impeding them? Perhaps they were being blackmailed or some other underhanded tactic is forcing them to lash out so violently," said Francis.
OOC: I'll stop cluttering up your thread with this post.
OOC: I'll stop cluttering up your thread with this post.
"We believe that the fact of a non communist entity able to give such a great life to the people of the Kingdom is a real threat and offense to their convoluted way of thinking. The Kingdom provides each of its citizens an opportunity to better themselves, a free and meritocratic society which rewards ability and take cares of those who differently abled. These communists are seeing the absolute farce of their ideologies revealed to them and soon shall have the last popular support fading from them. This drives them to commit violent acts as the only way to regain attention. However that shall not last. Soon the RCPF would crush them and utterly destroy every last violent insurgent. The Kingdom is a safe and peaceful form of governance but we will be extremely brutal to anyone threatening to disrupt the public peace,prosperity and tranquility.
The rule of law in the Kingdom is absolute, even the Cochin Royal Family is not exempt from the rule of law and the punishment received through breaking it as had been seen from the case of Capt. Prince Rajesh Varma a few years earlier."
- Revin George,
Minister of Interior.
OOC: Bio, no problems with such posts,
The rule of law in the Kingdom is absolute, even the Cochin Royal Family is not exempt from the rule of law and the punishment received through breaking it as had been seen from the case of Capt. Prince Rajesh Varma a few years earlier."
- Revin George,
Minister of Interior.
OOC: Bio, no problems with such posts,
"With such peaceful options available to them, violence is not the way these terrorists should have taken. We condemn these people, and repudiate them."
~Communist Party of Australia (Subtleknifewielder)
~Communist Party of Australia (Subtleknifewielder)
"Banning communism will not help. Why ban a complete ideology because of a few miscreants who are using it for their own selfish power lust? It is not right, I hope the Kingdom can see the mistake in banning this. It will give more propaganda to such a terrorist organization. We are willing to militarily help the Kingdom fight these band of rogue terrorists claiming to be "communist"." - (Sir Keshav IV)
Communism as an organization is already banned in the Central Asian provinces of the Kingdom and chance had been given to the Indian Communists to coexist with the Kingdom. However they have chosen to break the trust we placed in them. The Kingdom is cracking down on Communist Party Marxist and Communist Party Maoist who are responsible for the wave of terrorism. We have proofs which conclusively show that these attacks were organizationally planned by these two entities and hence all associated personnel shall feel the wrath of punishment.
Those communists who have not aided, abetted or participated in these attacks would be spared but would be watched.
We thank the People's Republic for the offer of help, but this is an internal law and order matter and is already being handled in an adequate manner.
Those communists who have not aided, abetted or participated in these attacks would be spared but would be watched.
We thank the People's Republic for the offer of help, but this is an internal law and order matter and is already being handled in an adequate manner.
"Perhaps banning this ideology is what led to things like this in the first place."
~Franz Kepler, Chairman of the Comnist Party of Australia
~Franz Kepler, Chairman of the Comnist Party of Australia
"Communism and the Cochin way of life are mutually incompatible. Any attempt to impose communism is a manifest threat against the state and hence an issue of national security. Any entity or person who threatens the civic peace, prosperity and tranquility shall be dealt with harshly and permanently. Rule of Law is the absolute in the Kingdom, and no claim of lofty ideology or lofty peerage gives a person insulation from that. So long as affiliates of communists live peacefully and bound within the rules of the nation,they would be unharmed. If they act or speak against the Kingdom, they shall face the nation's ire."
"You state that they are free as long as they live peacefully, yet in the same paragraph, you name their ideology as banned. That is not freedom, that is being told to keep your mouth shut. If the people were to desire communism rather than the rule of the royal family, would you step aside? Or even participate, if they asked you to?"
~Franz Kepler
~Franz Kepler
" The Kingdom of Cochin is a Meritocratic Absolute Responsible Monarchy. We are not democratic, but we do have representative system at the local administration level. We will not let there be a condition where people would desire Communism over the present system. Popular opinion is fickle, it is irresponsible, uneducated and inherently shallow. Democracy is inherently irresponsible and anarchist and hence we do not claim to practice it in any way. So if Communists or any such ideology group ever try to supplant the current governance system, they shall be obliterated.
As regards CPI, by banning their ideology we mean that they shall be prohibited from congregating and spreading their ideas. Yes, it is not freedom and it is being told to keep your mouth shut. Freedom is never absolute. Freedom without responsibility leads to anarchy, something we shall deter at all costs. Freedom means the right to do anything so long as it does not affect his fellow man. Communism is an inherently despotic ideology that would seek to harm the common man the most and packaged in its colorful propaganda, certain fickle minded people may even get carried away and support it. Hence why Communism is banned. Communists as such are still citizens of the Kingdom and hence hold the full protection of the state, as long as they live according to the rule of law. If they attempt to betray their confidence they shall feel the wrath of the state.
For make no mistake, the principal purpose of the Kingdom of Cochin and the Cochin Royal Family is to maintain the peace, prosperity and stability of the people of Cochin, and any force or ideology that threatens it either in the short term or long term shall be destroyed."
- Revin George,
Minister of Interior.
As regards CPI, by banning their ideology we mean that they shall be prohibited from congregating and spreading their ideas. Yes, it is not freedom and it is being told to keep your mouth shut. Freedom is never absolute. Freedom without responsibility leads to anarchy, something we shall deter at all costs. Freedom means the right to do anything so long as it does not affect his fellow man. Communism is an inherently despotic ideology that would seek to harm the common man the most and packaged in its colorful propaganda, certain fickle minded people may even get carried away and support it. Hence why Communism is banned. Communists as such are still citizens of the Kingdom and hence hold the full protection of the state, as long as they live according to the rule of law. If they attempt to betray their confidence they shall feel the wrath of the state.
For make no mistake, the principal purpose of the Kingdom of Cochin and the Cochin Royal Family is to maintain the peace, prosperity and stability of the people of Cochin, and any force or ideology that threatens it either in the short term or long term shall be destroyed."
- Revin George,
Minister of Interior.
"Well, it's nice to know that you think I and my fellows are corrupt and despotic for wanting a system that, if implimented properly, ensures the eradication of coruption. Why don't you educate your citizens properly and THEN ask them what they think?"
"You also say the primary purpose of the kingdom and it's Royal Family are responsible for eliminating any force or ideology that threatens the peace and stability of the people. I ask you--what happens if the destabilizing forse is the family itself?"
~Franz Kepler, Chairman of the Communist Party of Australia
"You also say the primary purpose of the kingdom and it's Royal Family are responsible for eliminating any force or ideology that threatens the peace and stability of the people. I ask you--what happens if the destabilizing forse is the family itself?"
~Franz Kepler, Chairman of the Communist Party of Australia
"The rule of law is absolute, especially more so for the Cochin Royal Family. Perhaps those who question the nature of Cochin Judicial system must learn about the case of Capt. Rajesh Varma, a member of the Cochin Royal Family who was convicted of doing a heinous crime and tried to appeal to his punishment by seeking clemency from his uncle, His Highness Rama Varma, the King of Cochin. There are no exceptions to the Cochin law, the protectors and enforcers of law are more bound to it, else they would not have the authority or legitimacy to enforce it.
AS regards your question of the family being a destabilizing force, Cochin Royal Family is a self correcting institution with multiple levels of responsible safeguards precisely against a very such threat. The head of the family, the Matriarch wields greater power than the head of the state, the King and thus balance is obtained. And since the continuance of the family depends on the well being of the state and the well being of the people, it is the family's responsibility to maintain good governance. This is the very basic tenet of responsible governance, being responsible for what you to do and its effects for the next decade as well as next century.
Mr. Kepler, the replies you solicit from us may hurt you, but this is our studied and educated opinion. How much ever you may claim not to be so, absolute power is absolutely corrupting. The Cochin Royal Family knows this, knows the effect of absolute power on one uninitiated and irresponsible, thus why a greater import is placed on duties and responsibilities than power. The Kings of Cochin have always wielded great power, but they have all been tempered by the knowledge of the far greater burden of duty and responsibility that necessitates this power. That is a concept inconceivable for the average communist."
- Revin George,
Minister of Interior.
AS regards your question of the family being a destabilizing force, Cochin Royal Family is a self correcting institution with multiple levels of responsible safeguards precisely against a very such threat. The head of the family, the Matriarch wields greater power than the head of the state, the King and thus balance is obtained. And since the continuance of the family depends on the well being of the state and the well being of the people, it is the family's responsibility to maintain good governance. This is the very basic tenet of responsible governance, being responsible for what you to do and its effects for the next decade as well as next century.
Mr. Kepler, the replies you solicit from us may hurt you, but this is our studied and educated opinion. How much ever you may claim not to be so, absolute power is absolutely corrupting. The Cochin Royal Family knows this, knows the effect of absolute power on one uninitiated and irresponsible, thus why a greater import is placed on duties and responsibilities than power. The Kings of Cochin have always wielded great power, but they have all been tempered by the knowledge of the far greater burden of duty and responsibility that necessitates this power. That is a concept inconceivable for the average communist."
- Revin George,
Minister of Interior.
"As usual, you mis-perceive Communism. It seeks not despotism, but to give power to all people. It in itself, if implimented properly, does exactly what your Royal Family does--corrects itself and provides proper balance in all issues. If I am offended, it is because of the prejudices that people are unwilling to put aside for the greater good."
"It is the very antitheses of absolute power, spreading the power out too far to be abused by any one person."
~Franz Kepler, Chairman of the Communist Party of Australia
"It is the very antitheses of absolute power, spreading the power out too far to be abused by any one person."
~Franz Kepler, Chairman of the Communist Party of Australia
"From our experience and observation, idealism as proclaimed by Communism does not work. Power tends to accumulate, if power is not channelized it will not get executed. When Power concentrates, it starts to corrupt those who are unprepared. We do not seek to propagate our way of life and governance but it is our national policy that communism as a bane of human civilization would be eradicated. We shall absolutely eradicate dissent."
It is unfortunate that the "communists" of The Kingdom have chosen the lowest common denominator as a means to revolt. However, we understand that sometimes violence is the only option. We will be watching these events as they continue to unfold, in hopes that the revolutionaries do not soon become the oppressors.
- Thomas Grimshaw, Diarch of USET. (Thomas Grimshaw)
- Thomas Grimshaw, Diarch of USET. (Thomas Grimshaw)
"The revolutionaries shall not be allowed to be the oppressors, they shall soon be the ones to be oppressed."
- Gen. Mohammed Faraz,
Commander,
Royal Cochin Police Force.
- Gen. Mohammed Faraz,
Commander,
Royal Cochin Police Force.
"From our experience and observation, idealism as proclaimed by Communism does not work. Power tends to accumulate, if power is not channelized it will not get executed. When Power concentrates, it starts to corrupt those who are unprepared. We do not seek to propagate our way of life and governance but it is our national policy that communism as a bane of human civilization would be eradicated. We shall absolutely eradicate dissent."
"Naturally, they would elect leaders who, if said individuals do not fulfill their duties properly, could be removed--exactly like the system you have in place for those who abuse their power. If you truly believe it is the bane of existence, let the people learn of it for themselves, in the proper context. And not in this violent situation, either."
"The revolutionaries shall not be allowed to be the oppressors, they shall soon be the ones to be oppressed."
- Gen. Mohammed Faraz,
Commander,
Royal Cochin Police Force.
- Gen. Mohammed Faraz,
Commander,
Royal Cochin Police Force.
"And therien lies the problem. How does in turn oppressing them make you any better than them?"
~Franz Kepler, Chairman of the Communist Party of Australia
"Removed? An irresponsible government if it came to power would not ever listen to the people. Their myopic outlook would mean they would work only to stay in power for their limited mandate for governance and not beyond. That is where responsible monarchy comes in.
The ordinary people do not care for politics so long as their basic necessities are met and they have freedom in their regular lives. Population as such is usually fickle and stupid in their subjective temporary opinions which must never be allowed to rule the statecraft. Governance require long sighted wisdom and merit to judge and respond to events, governance is a sacrifice, for the uninitiated it is a temptation to be autocratic.
There is also the very principal ideology of capitalism vi, "From each according to their ability to each according to their need," which would destroy the meritocratic system we have built. There is no scope for merit in such populist systems, only the matter of who has greater PR power, who is a better talker than a better do-er. Such a system would be inherently corrupt and that is a fate which we shall never ever rick with Cochin.
As regards oppressing them, we consider it a stick and carrot treatment. Law and order requires judicial punishment. Without fear of law, there would be chaos. We have offered these deviants opportunity for peaceful settlement, but they refused. So they must now know the penalties of breaking the law so that in the future no one would ever dare break the law.
The Kingdom of Cochin is a safe country, a young woman can walk the streets in the midnight in the alleyways of a large city bedecked in jewelery and would never have to worry about her life or possessions. This safety from crime is possible only through the severity of punishment."
- Gen. Mohammad Faraz
"An irresponsible government would have no power if the people refused to listen to it. Perhaps people today do not care for politics, but if you ensure that they are directly affected by it and can see it, it is guaranteed they will get involved."
"You also have outright banned the party, when not all members of it are activists. It is to that I refer when I say you are no better than those you oppress. You say you are a stick and carrot country, yet you hit people who have had nothing to do with this. Punish only the guilty."
"And what do you mean by capitalism? I believe we are discussing Communism."
~Franz Kepler
"You also have outright banned the party, when not all members of it are activists. It is to that I refer when I say you are no better than those you oppress. You say you are a stick and carrot country, yet you hit people who have had nothing to do with this. Punish only the guilty."
"And what do you mean by capitalism? I believe we are discussing Communism."
~Franz Kepler
An irresponsible government with the power of the state would not be brought down easily by the people. It would take a long time of building anarchy to bring down such a state. The populist utopia does not exist. As regards involved, should the people always have a say in matters they do not understand like justics, international affairs etc? Should Judiciary be dissolved and we let mob vendetta try people for their crimes? What is the reason why judiciary is kept separated from the rule of the mob? Because essentially people collectively act like a mob, a group of people identifiable by their lowest denominator of intelligence.
As regards the party, yes we have banned it, because we will never allow propagation of such a subversive group to accumulate following. We are not punishing those members who have not committed a crime. They will continue to have all their normal freedoms, however right to membership to a political party is not something the Kingdom guarantees or encourages. There is no populist political system in the Kingdom and we shall not allow such a system to arise.
Discussion of capitalism is a natural part of discussing communism. After all you should be made aware of what might get destroyed if communism is allowed to take root. The Kingdom's vibrant industrial sector would be destroyed through the introduction of communism. The employee in a Cochin industry has far greater benefits and higher standards of living than any communist nation can ever hope to provide. Merit is the absolute measure in Cochin, not populism.
As regards the party, yes we have banned it, because we will never allow propagation of such a subversive group to accumulate following. We are not punishing those members who have not committed a crime. They will continue to have all their normal freedoms, however right to membership to a political party is not something the Kingdom guarantees or encourages. There is no populist political system in the Kingdom and we shall not allow such a system to arise.
Discussion of capitalism is a natural part of discussing communism. After all you should be made aware of what might get destroyed if communism is allowed to take root. The Kingdom's vibrant industrial sector would be destroyed through the introduction of communism. The employee in a Cochin industry has far greater benefits and higher standards of living than any communist nation can ever hope to provide. Merit is the absolute measure in Cochin, not populism.
"Merit, too, is the driving idea behind Communism. However, it is clear you are too stubborn to consider reason on this issue. Good day."
~Franz Kepler
OOC: And it's time you got back to the violence.
~Franz Kepler
OOC: And it's time you got back to the violence.
New Deutschland endorses these revolutionaries. We are not seeking a conflit with anyone, we simply endorse those in the lower classes who had the power to stand up to the ruling classes. We suggest that these people be allowed to leacve their country since their beliefs are not respected. Our country is an example of a communist nation that can succeed. Communism does not destroy, it allows for the flourishing of the people. Our nation suggests that the workers should unite, especially in this instance, and oppose the ruling classes. Either the ruling class should concede to the will of the people or allow them to go to countries where they can take power, rather than be forced to stay in a country where their power is taken away. (Kaiser Lorzon)
Since the Kingdom of Cochin does not recognize this so called New Deutschland we see no merit in replying to any random messages from the world. As regards the points raised, any citizen of the Kingdom is welcome to leave the nation if they do not wish to stay. The Kingdom will also offer them rehabilitation packages so that they may have funds to resettle in whatever new nation they may seek to emigrate to.
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